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Líne 170:
Since neither ''bh'' nor ''mh'' is ever occuring by themselves, I don't see why we shan't accept ''An Bhicipéid'' or ''An Mhicipéid''. Surely there must be some words in the language not using the letter ''v'' but still being loan words. Or maybe I'm just a tad conservative... I rarely see words with this letter and I've never had either... /[[Úsáideoir:Úsáideoir|Úsáideoir]] 13:30, 3 Iúil 2009 (UTC)
 
:Yes but if, for example, you were to use ''bh'' then we could create the words ''an bhicipéid''. The problem is that this would then render the genitive of this word as ''na bicipéide'', losing the ''h'' or séimhiú - remember ''h'' is only used to lenite the preceding consonant, or to produce a ''h'' sound when it is in word initial placement (e.g. ''hata''). This means we lose the ''v'' sound at the start of the word when in genitive position. However, because the word is foreign (vicí is an Irish loanword taken from Hawaiian) we actually <u>do</u> pronounce the ''v'' sound even in the genitive case. This is why we use the letter ''v''. Only this letter can allow us to maintain grammatical accuracy, while adhering to the pronunciation of foreign words. If we were to use ''bh'' or ''mh'', then the genitive spelling of the word would not reflect the pronunciation. i.e. Wikipedia in Irish would be spelled (if we take ''bh'' as an example):
''bicipéid'' -> ''an bhicipéid'' -> ''na bicipéide'' -> ''ar an mbicipéid''
:But pronounced as:
Líne 179:
''vicipéid'' -> ''an vicipéid'' -> ''na vicipéide'' -> ''ar an vicipéid''
<br />--[[Úsáideoir:MacTire02|MacTire02]] 19:09, 3 Iúil 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, I see what you mean. Thus, if we have used ''mh'', it would me something like this...:
''micipéid'' -> ''an mhicipéid'' -> ''na micipéide'' -> ''ar an mbicipéid''
::But pronounced as:
''mhicipéid'' -> ''an mhicipéid -> ''na mhicipéide'' -> ''ar an mhicipéid''
<br />--/[[Úsáideoir:Úsáideoir|Úsáideoir]] 10:52, 4 Iúil 2009 (UTC)
 
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