Kevin Scannell

Cartlann

Cartlann 1 (ó 2006-05 go 2024-07)

GFDL

Hello! I have noticed that the en:Wikipedia:Image license migration was not completed here. I can do that and because there are only 65 files here in Catagóir:Íomhánna GFDL I suggest the most simple solution. It is to add a little code to Teimpléad:GFDL and create Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated as a copy of en:Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated. Then I can mark all the files depending on if they are eligible for a relicense or not. I suggest only to translate the visible text and leave the rest of the code in English. That makes it easier to copy between wikis. I will probably move some of the files to Commons (Catagóir:Ag Cómhaoin) and then the local version can be deleted. Can you help translate and perhaps delete files that are on Commons? MGA73 (plé) 16:50, 8 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps you could also check if some of the unused files (Speisialta:UnusedFiles) can be deleted first? --MGA73 (plé) 16:54, 8 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Hi @MGA73 — I created a copy of en:Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated and translated the visible text to Irish; the result is here. I also deleted the 8 images that were already in the Commons (and would be happy to delete any others that you move to Commons as part of this process). Also deleted a handful of the unused images, but I would need to investigate most of the others to sort out their licensing and see if they can still be used in articles. Is this enough for you to proceed? Thanks for your help with this. kscanne (plé) 21:07, 8 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Hi Kevin! Thank you. Yes that is very good. I made a list of files also on Commons: Úsáideoir:MGA73/Sandbox. I have not checked the files so I do not know if they are transferred correctly and if they are eligible for Commons. --MGA73 (plé) 05:29, 9 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

I just found out that there is also a "self" template here (Obair féin) and that it not work correctly so I linked it to Wikidata and made this fix: Special:Diff/1232429. It also means that once the system has updated the files there will be more files licensed GFDL than we first thought. We can still do the license migration but I may have to add more templates than I first thought. --MGA73 (plé) 05:50, 9 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

I added some code to GFDL and if we add the new template directly to the self template then I do not think we need more code. I also fixed 10 files with my bot: Speisialta:Contributions/MGA73bot. There are 245 files now so I guess I need a bot flag to fix the rest. Unless there is a local bot user that can fix the files. I made https://quarry.wmcloud.org/query/86175 so it is easy to see when the files were uploaded (the date is the latest upload date so a file may be okay for relicense even if uploaded after August 2009 so I usually check the file before I accept the change). Can you check if it looks okay and perhaps find out if someone will fix the license migration or I should ask for a bot flag? --MGA73 (plé) 19:03, 9 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

I have a local bot I could use but I'm not completely clear on the specific changes that are required, or the list of files where they should be applied. If you can lay those details out for me clearly, I can probably handle. I'd also be happy to grant your bot access here if you think that's easier — only issue is that I don't think I have sufficient powers right now to grant bot status. But I can ping @Alison in a pinch! kscanne (plé) 22:12, 9 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Most of it is about the date of the upload. But there is an exception for things first published as GFDL somewhere else that makes it a bit tricky. So I usually end up checking the file before I press y and accept the change. If any of the users are still active you can always ask if they agree to relicense. Then you do not have to worry about the dates. Just link to the accept in the edit summary. I’m heading for work now. I can explain more tonight but files uploaded before November 2008 should be fine to relicense. If you want some fun to do with your bot while you wait you can alway look for file pages that does not have a ‘{‘ because that should be unlicensed files. :-) --MGA73 (plé) 04:36, 10 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Here if needed :) - Alison ^plé 04:53, 10 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I added a list of files to Úsáideoir:MGA73/Sandbox. I also added a copy of the code I used for the bot test edits.

I suggest to first work on the files uploaded before November 2008. They should all be eligible. If they allready have a cc-by-sa-3.0 or a cc-by-3.0 the code should be "migration=redundant". If you suspect that not all files was fixed you can always make the exception list shorter so the bot will work on more files and then check whatever shows up.

Files uploaded from November 2028 to August 2009 are still eligible unless they were licensed GFDL somewhere other than Wikipedia. I doubt it is the case for any files but you can exclude text like http, www for example.

Last batch is files from August 2009 and newer. They are not eligible for a relicense unless they were originally uploaded to Wikipedi before August 2009.

You can always skip files you are not sure about and I can check them. --MGA73 (plé) 16:22, 10 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Hello! How are things going? Well? Any problems? --MGA73 (plé) 05:34, 13 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Almost there! I updated all of the pre-Nov 2008 images with no problem. I've since reached out to the creators of the remaining images and have updated in the cases where I've gotten replies. Just waiting for three more people to answer — seems like this would be the easiest solution.

If I don't get answers from them, how do you normally handle the cases in the window Nov 2008 to Aug 2009? I don't believe any of the images here were first published under GFDL on non-Wikimedia sites, but it's hard to be certain without an answer from the creators. kscanne (plé) 12:27, 13 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Good plan! If the uploader is the copyright holder then I mark them as relicense. It is only if the file is marked as taken from another source I mark them as not-eligible. If they are marked as taken from a website then the question is if we can verify that the website is licensed GFDL. If not then the file should be marked as no permission and in the end deleted. --MGA73 (plé) 13:50, 13 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

If the uploader agree to relicense I usually add cc-by-sa-3.0 instead of cc-by-sa-3.0-migrated. Just as info. :-) --MGA73 (plé) 13:55, 13 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Got it! Thanks for all of your help with this. kscanne (plé) 14:16, 13 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Happy to help! Have you thought of adding en:Template:Information to all files and ask uploader to fill it out? It can be done with a bot if uploader confirm to be the creator of the files. Sometimes user just add a template but does not add a statement like "I made this photo". It takes time but once user is no longer active it is too late to ask. --MGA73 (plé) 15:37, 13 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I noticed that there are 186 files in Catagóir:Ceadúnas GFDL le fiosrú but it seems that you have fixed all the files. So I suggest to fix Teimpléad:GFDL so that it no longer add files to this category. Otherwise we need to fix Template:Obair féin but it will make it more complicated. --MGA73 (plé) 14:22, 5 Deireadh Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Good catch, thanks. Fixed now I think. kscanne (plé) 14:36, 5 Deireadh Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Articles Deleted

Why did you delete my articles? Based Kashmiri (plé) 11:05, 28 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

@Kevin Scannell I request you to send those two articles to my draft space so I can take time to fix it, please sir. Based Kashmiri (plé) 11:10, 28 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)

Ní cheadaímid aistriúcháin uathoibríocha ar an vicí seo. Má tá Gaeilge mhaith agat, tá fáilte romhat ceann amháin acu a athscríobh as an nua, agus má tá sé sách maith, ní scriosfaimid é. kscanne (plé) 12:31, 28 Meán Fómhair 2024 (UTC)