Machine trans

cuir in eagar

Hi there, and welcome. Your recent edits look suspiciously like they were created using Google Translate or some other MT system. Machine translations are not permitted, since the resulting content is at best gramatically incorrect and at worst gibberish. Such edits will be tagged for deletion since they take valuable time to bring them to an acceptable level. Antóin (talk) 10:12, 9 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)


Táimse sásta an stuif a cheartú, is mire go mór a leithéid de ailt a chruthú, má tá fabht le ceann acu, abair liom is ceartód é. Eomurchadha (talk) 01:03, 10 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)
Míle buíochas a chara, tuigim gur tairiscint ó chroí atá ann. Ar an drochuair, áfach, shamhlóinn go mbeadh an iomarca le déanamh, cúrsaí mar atá siad faoi láthair. Tá na céadta alt eile le ghlanadh chomh maith, ailt ina mbeadh fáilte mhór roimh d'ionchur. --Antóin (talk) 20:58, 21 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

Using automated tools/etc

cuir in eagar

Hi and welcome. While we are always delighted to welcome new members to the project community, I'd like to draw your attention to a couple of quick guidelines and conventions you should be aware of:

  1. Mass creation. As on the English version of the project, "mass creation" of pages should only be completed within guidelines. Whether done in an automated or manual fashion, any editor planning to create pages in significant bulk should advise other editors of their intent. This will ease the process greatly. Personally I don't understand the rationale for creating all those "years" pages. However, if you had raised it in advance, and the community had decided that there was value in it, we might have helped as the process went ahead. And avoided a situation (as we now have) where we have dozens (if not hundreds) of "articles" with little/no content, no interwikis, no categories (or mis-alphabetised categories), etc. Please do not engage in any further "bulk" page creation - not without asking someone for help/etc first.
  2. Automated translation. As Antóin advised, Google Translate and other machine translation tools are not considered "good enough" for this project. In most cases it generates nonsense text that is at best "pidgin" Irish and at worst complete nonsense that is deletable under the relevant guidelines. Please don't use these tools to create any more articles. If you must, you could create a page in a sandbox area and ask someone else to assist or improve. Or use the requested articles page.
  3. Disruption. While this is an open and inclusive project, even editors with the best of intentions can create noise and disruption that is not ultimately helpful to the project. Please try and engage with other editors (as per the attempts above). Editors who consistently fail to hear or react to offers of assistance can be very disruptive to the project, and (despite the best of intentions) might find themselves on the wrong side of the guidelines.

All the best. Guliolopez (talk) 23:34, 16 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

 

Thanks for uploading Image:WOWAKK-Kukai-Alaskan-Klee-Kai.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright.

As well as adding the source, please add a copyright licensing tag. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as those in Catagóir:Clibeanna cóipchirt de comhaid nach bhfuil saor. Such tags must be accompanied with a Fair Use Rationale template such as {{Réasúnaíocht d'íomhánna nach bhfuil saor}}.

Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 20:50, 20 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

Assistance

cuir in eagar

Hello. Thanks for your continued interest and contributions to the project. If you need any assistance with your editing activities, please ask.

While we're always delighted to have new editors contributing, I have a small concern that you have not engaged with the notes, suggestions and offers of assistance made by several editors (above and elsewhere). While new editors are always given lots of leeway, it is expected in return that users engage with each other when issues arise. For example:

  • I notice for that you have addressed one of the issues I raised with the "Uimhir" (sic) template. But have not addressed many of the other issues. If you simply don't know how to address these issues, please advise on the relevant talk page so someone else can chip-in and help figure it out. (For example the title is still in the genitive case (rather than plural), there is English in the template, it is incredibly long, doesn't collapse, seems destined to become an infinite list, etc, etc).
  • I notice that you also still seem to be struggling with language and translation. While we did advise not using machine translation tools to CREATE content, if you are not an Irish speaker, you should consider using something to CHECK content that you create. On the article you created about the number 10 for example, you "copied and pasted" content from another article, without checking the meaning/translation. You effectively copied a bunch of content from the article about the number 7 that had absolutely no place in the article about the number 10. Please be careful of that.
  • It seems that you have not revisited all the "year" articles that you created in bulk. Are you planning to revisit them? I ask because they all have the same problems. They are either completely uncategorised (like 34) or improperly categorised (like 387 - which should be ordered as [[Catagóir:Blianta|0387]]), they are missing basics (like a title/lead line or even the Roman Numeral equivalent), have no interwikis, and they are all effectively "empty". Because they are empty they have no value. And so the problems completely outweigh the (nonexistent) value. Can you advise whether you plan to revisit these again? If not I'll see what (as a community) we can do with them to help with these "shell" articles.

If you don't reply to messages on talkpages/etc it gets very difficult to assume good faith and look for constructive solutions to help-out each other (and the project). Anyway, thanks for listening and looking forward to seeing more positive contributions. Beir bua leis! Guliolopez (talk) 21:36, 20 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks again for your continued contributions. While I note that you haven't responded to my suggestion about asking for help (or my comments on ideal navbox templates), here are some further notes:

  1. When creating a new article, please check that it doesn't exist already. You can do this with a quick search or by checking the interwikis in the Wikipedias in other languages. You created at least 3 articles recently that were duplicates of existing ones. (See Cat Manannach, Liam III Shasana, srl).
  2. As noted before, while automated translation tools are to be avoided, you should consider at least consulting an Irish dictionary when creating of titling pages. For example, Abyssinian, Persian, Manx, etc, are not Irish words. A quick check of a dictionary [like focal.ie] would have given you the Irish word.
  3. Similar to my note about all the "empty" pages about years, it isn't a project priority right now to create more "articles" which are in effect five word definitions. While all articles have to start somewhere, it is probably more useful to the project right now to expand and improve many of the existing stubs and "one liners" that we already have. If you want to help out with this effort, please let me know and I can give some pointers on where to start.

I hope you find these notes constructive. Thanks again for your interest and input to the project. It really is great to have "new blood" helping out. Beir bua leis. Guliolopez (talk) 19:51, 21 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

Copyrights

cuir in eagar

Hi. As per the messages left by other users on your EN project user talkpage, it is very important that we respect and manage copyrighted materials properly. Since I left the note above about tagging images with the appropriate copyright tag, I notice that you have since uploaded yet more dozen(s) of images - and have not included tags. It is the uploader's responsibility to ensure images are properly tagged. Untagged images may be deleted. Confirming copyright status is not difficult. See example tags on this image. Guliolopez (talk) 12:18, 22 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your offer of assistance on my talkpage. As per my note, before we create yet more "one liner" articles, it would be much more useful to the project for us to focus on cleaning-up the "one liners" that we already have. There are lots and lots of "one liner" articles that are missing links, context, interwikis, categories, etc, etc. I understand that you are not an Irish speaker, but even a non-Irish speaker could help clean-up the following:

  1. We have a lot of "uncategorised" pages. Pages in this "cleanup" list typically also have no links/images/interwikis/etc. You should be able to find out what these articles refer to, find the English equivalent and determine an appropriate EXISTING category and add some links and interwikis.
  2. We also have a number of towns and villages listed on the "short pages" cleanup list. Using the backlinks and maybe logainm.ie, you should be able to determine what towns these are, and add an appropriate category, interwiki and page links.
  3. On both of these cleanup pages you will see a LOT of "years" pages. Someone is going to have to clean these up. Given that you created these, it might as well be you. They need appropriately ordered categories (see my note above about prefixing zeros where needed), interwikis, etc, etc.

Maybe pick one or two things to start, give it a trial, check back with me (or another editor) if you are unsure about how to start or whether you've done the right thing, and then you can crack on with the rest. This really would help the project (a lot more than uploading untagged images and creating more flawed "one liner" pages). Thanks a lot for helping out! GRMMA. Guliolopez (talk) 12:52, 22 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

Hang on. Stop. What are you doing? There is no value in putting the Deilgne article in the top-level "town" category. None whatsoever. That is a waste of time and counter productive. I suggested finding out what town this article related to. It is a town in County Wicklow. It would've taken you 10 seconds to check the backlinks or logainm.ie to find that out. It should be in the Catagóir:Bailte i gContae Chill Mhantáin category. It is POINTLESS and completely counterproductive doing what you are doing. As you are just creating yet more work for other people. Forget I said anything. STOP. Guliolopez (talk) 13:12, 22 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

Right. Thanks for responding to my note, and apologies if I wasn't clear, but you seem to have misunderstood what I was asking. For the sake of clarity, take a look at this edit I just made. This is the type of edit that I thought would be useful. All I did was quickly click the "Naisc go dtí an lch seo" link (over on the left), saw that the page was linked from the County Donegal article (and therefore referred to the town in Donegal), and I very quickly added the category and interwiki. It took 20 seconds, and doesn't require any Irish language skills. Going through the list and just "throwing" articles into the "town" category adds no value to the reader. If this is too difficult then forget I said anything about the towns/etc. Please just focus on the cleanup of the "years" pages instead if you can. Guliolopez (talk) 13:21, 22 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for listening and improving the updates. But can you please take the extra 3 seconds to add the county link? And the extra 10 seconds to add the interwiki? Otherwise someone else is STILL going to have to walk behind you and mop-up. The whole point of this exercise was to find something valuable that you could do on your own that wouldn't generate busy-work for other editors. And we're not there yet. (Also, can you use talkpages please. I feel like I'm talking to myself here :) ). Guliolopez (talk) 13:33, 22 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

OK. I am going to be blunt now. Apart from your persistence in creating "one-liner" pages that are of no use to the project, I've advised multiple times (in the plainest terms I could) that it is against project guidelines to upload copyrighted images without appropriate tags. If you don't stop, I am going to block you under the relevant disruptive editing guidelines and those relating to persistent copyright violations. Guliolopez (talk) 22:42, 23 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

I have to second this. Your contributions are causing more work than they are worth. Even non-fluent users should at least have a basic level of Irish. If you don't have the language competence to see how bad machine translations are, then you really need to study and embrace our language before contributing. --Antóin (talk) 23:30, 23 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)

Repeated warning

cuir in eagar

Hi. Welcome back. It's great that you are adding some useful content, and I am glad to see that you are paying a little more attention to content and guidelines. HOWEVER, you are still making some very basic mistakes (article on Patti Page had content related to Katy Perry! article on the first Eurovision similarly had content that was 60 years "premature", etc). I also notice that you are uploading images without appropriate licence tags. Please watch these things! Guliolopez (talk) 23:38, 27 Eanáir 2013 (UTC)Reply

(FYI. You used machine trans (or copy and paste or something) to create articles on some male musicians. But the articles described them as female. This is beyond silly, and the project has no patience for this type of thing any more. Articles which have more wrong with them than right with them are likely to be deleted. Just an advisory as, if you want your content to stand/remain, you need to spend a few minutes/seconds checking the basics of factual accuracy.) Guliolopez (talk) 23:51, 27 Eanáir 2013 (UTC)Reply

Unspecified source for Image:ESC 1958 logo.png

cuir in eagar
 

Thanks for uploading Image:ESC 1958 logo.png. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright.

As well as adding the source, please add a copyright licensing tag. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as those in Catagóir:Clibeanna cóipchirt de comhaid nach bhfuil saor. Such tags must be accompanied with a Fair Use Rationale template such as {{Réasúnaíocht d'íomhánna nach bhfuil saor}}.

Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 14:52, 15 Feabhra 2013 (UTC)Reply

Unspecified source for Image:ESC 1957 logo.png

cuir in eagar
 

Thanks for uploading Image:ESC 1957 logo.png. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright.

As well as adding the source, please add a copyright licensing tag. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as those in Catagóir:Clibeanna cóipchirt de comhaid nach bhfuil saor. Such tags must be accompanied with a Fair Use Rationale template such as {{Réasúnaíocht d'íomhánna nach bhfuil saor}}.

Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 14:52, 15 Feabhra 2013 (UTC)Reply

Unspecified source for Image:Eurovision Song Contest 2009 logo.png

cuir in eagar
 

Thanks for uploading Image:Eurovision Song Contest 2009 logo.png. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright.

As well as adding the source, please add a copyright licensing tag. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as those in Catagóir:Clibeanna cóipchirt de comhaid nach bhfuil saor. Such tags must be accompanied with a Fair Use Rationale template such as {{Réasúnaíocht d'íomhánna nach bhfuil saor}}.

Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 14:52, 15 Feabhra 2013 (UTC)Reply

Redirect

cuir in eagar

Hey. I see you created quite a large number of redirects to Olympic articles ("Cycling in [xyz olympics]" or "Germany in [xyz olympics]".) Please don't create any more of those. The titles are grammatically incorrect. And we don't need these redirects. Not currently at any rate. If someone ever creates those articles organically we should just let them. Let's not presuppose that we are going to have the same level of content as the EN project and that we're going to need to split it into subarticles. Those subarticles were created on the EN project to solve a particular problem. I don't see us having that issue here. (Also, and while you're more than welcome to keep editing and contributing, your level of Irish is at a level where you can take stuff from Google Translate and add a little flourish to tidy it up. Please be aware of your own language limitations. It doesn't help the project or its community to have grammatically problematic content.) Thanks! Guliolopez (talk) 17:06, 25 Márta 2013 (UTC)Reply

Reality check

cuir in eagar

Hi there. Could you please show some sign that you are acknowledging our advice and making some attempt to engage with the community? Your contributions continue to be of a very low standard and you show no signs of embracing the help that we are offering. We are a small bunch here, and it's disappointing to see that more words have been written on your discussion page than in new articles. Please refrain from creating new content until you express some interest in learning how to correct what you have already added. Le meas, --Antóin (talk) 22:50, 26 Márta 2013 (UTC)Reply

Reiterating the warning above. Please engage with us in some way or we will be forced to block you. --Antóin (talk) 10:12, 6 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)Reply
And again. We await some kind of communication from you. --Antóin (talk) 20:53, 24 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)Reply

Warning

cuir in eagar

OK. Look. This is a repeated advisory that one of the basic tenets of the project is to build consensus and to engage with other users. You continue to (bluntly) edit beyond your language level, and have ignored several requests from other editors (and administrators) to engage - so others can help ensure that edits are valuable and appropriate to the project. Apart from the remaining language issues, you continue to make changes to articles which introduce syntax issues and non-Irish content into pages. Project policy provides that, where "the community spends more time cleaning up editors' mistakes and educating them about policies and guidelines than it considers necessary, sanctions may have to be imposed." While sanctions are always considered an option of last resort, you have been given lots of (fair) warning about this, and this is about the last straw. Guliolopez (talk) 19:47, 30 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi Ebineibgheniobg, it's nice that you are helping me out with all these geography articles of Ireland. But please do try to ensure what you are creating is accurate. It just gives more work to others when you create articles for places that don't exist or create a load of articles about County Louth that suggest that every town and village is in the southwest of the county.

Thanks! Chaco 13 Meán Fómhair 2013

Final Warning

cuir in eagar
 

Tá fáilte romhat sa Vicipéid. Iarraimis do gach aon duine cuidiú dearfach a thabhairt don chiclipéid seo . Féach ar an leathanach fáilte más mian leat a thuilleadh a fhoghlaim faoin saghas cuidithe sin. Meastar go bhfuil athruithe neamhdhearfacha ar chomhthrom le loitiméireacht, áfach; má leanann tú ar aghaidh sa stíl seo b'fhéidir go gcoscfar tú ón eagarthóireacht gan aon fhógra eile. Cuir deireadh leis más é do thoil é, agus déan machnamh ar saothair a rinne daoine eile a fheabhsú. Go raibh maith agat.


 

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving articles rather than contributing nonsense. Thanks.

--Antóin (talk) 22:36, 11 Deireadh Fómhair 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sorry to see that you are not taking this seriously. Forced to block you for the following reasons:
  1. Continued poor editing
  2. Total lack of engagement in discussions with the community

--Antóin (talk) 20:18, 13 Deireadh Fómhair 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ceapaim go raibh an duine seo ag cur leis an togra, measaim go raibh sé míchóir e/í a bhaint. Eomurchadha (talk) 21:52, 10 Samhain 2013 (UTC)Reply

Tuigim do chuid frustachais leis, ach go bunúsach aontaím le Eomurchadha. SeoMac (talk) 01:43, 11 Samhain 2013 (UTC)Reply

A chairde. Ní gá dom a rá nach bhfuilim ar aon intinn libh, ach sin ráite tá an-mheas agam as bhur dtuairimí. Chun scéal gairid a dhéanamh de, ní chreidim go bhfuil na hacmhainní cearta againn ó thaobh ama agus oibre de. Má táimid chun deis eile a thabhairt, caitheann muid teacht ar phlean éigin chun an stuif a cheartú. --Antóin (talk) 18:31, 12 Samhain 2013 (UTC)Reply